Re: Life, Peace and Freedom.


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Posted by David M. Rose on June 30, 1999 at 19:12:10:

In Reply to: Re: Life, Peace and Freedom. posted by Willem on June 26, 1999 at 07:15:00:

: : : I have never really noted any particular political bias in Vance's writing - though I always feel that there is an "Old World" atmosphere to his work which I for one would not expect from a native of California.

: : Try "Nopalgarth" (aka "The Brains of Earth) from 1966. "We have our own war on Earth--the 'cold war,' against a particularly odious kind of enslavement."
: : ...
: : "Let's go home and scare hell out of the commies."

: : Hmm. Still think that Vance is a lefty sympathizer?

: This looks like a somewhat classic USA response to commies:commies equals lefties.

Willem, I will certainly ignore your provocative response, with the stipulation that you Hollanders will disavow your past, well before the establishment of the US of A as a nation, as a group of ruthless exploiters of natives wherever your colonial imperialist policies extended.

Aha, you might say, that was many years ago and with our withdrawl from world domination and expansionist policies into insularity, we now have a more mellow way of life: we allow dope and prostitution, and we purposefully ignore our right wing past, except when, of course we are forcefully reminded of it, as when your former thralls the "F**kin' Moluccans" hijacked a *train* in Holland, for goodness' sake.

Obviously, you didn't provide your former natives with a decent television infrastructure: otherwise, they could have seen the antics of the late dwarf Herve Villechaize on "Fantasy Island" when he intoned "De plane, de plane." I.e, not the train.

Aside from "Nopalgarth", suggest that you brush up on "Wyst:Alastor 1716", which confirms many Americans' points of view on you Europeans (and of course, this is not my POV):

1.Lazy
2.Bad smelling
3.Waiting for the next government handout.
4.Confusing ideas with work, insofar as monetary compensation is concerned.
5.Amoral, to say the least.

I ask only that make a scientific experiment:

Take an early morning businesspersons flight in America and in Europe. You will see that:

1. The US experience will find you amongst a group of large, naive, but clean-smelling persons.

2. The Intra-European flight will place you in a vomit-inducing atmosphere, what with bad breath, foul smelling clothing, body odor, and much, much worse.

ObVance: "Wyst" is but a small step from your European socialist states, and I believe that this was Vance's comment--no political stuff meant or implied, but Willem most unfairly dissed the USA. Fair enough?

: If somebody does not approve of communism it does not directly mean he is not a lefty sympathizer. in other words: why would an lefty sympathizer have to think friendly of communism?
: left and right are meaningless words in political context because so called leftwinged dictatorial states greatly resemble rightwing dictatorial states.
: In the end they meet with regard to respect for human live!

: Vance did write this story a long time ago, 1966 , at that time the cold war was still going on.
: In conclusion: it does not prove him to be non 'lefty'
: it doesn't prove anything.
: sorry for the double denials

: btw I am nor left, nor right, I know the truth, so I am in the middle,
: I think Vance is there also, otherwise I wouldn't like his books
: :-)




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